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Octopus Accessories - art thieves

Tue Oct 21, 2014, 4:58 AM
www.octopus-store.ro/
this is their store. They are Octopus Acessories 

This is their facebook page www.facebook.com/OctopusAccess…

They had my drawings printed and were selling necklaces with them. They also lied to me that they did not steal them and took them from from some deviant who supposedly stole them first.
They sent me this link to this deviant :iconxyqueen: but the drawings that belong to me were submitted 12 hours ago. So obviously this couldn't be true since Nijikon was over 12 hours ago, and they had them for sale since 3 days ago.
This girl is so shameless, she lied to my face! She made me feel bad about calling her out and "making a scene" in front of her booth. OMG! And i believed her, i could have had her kicked out of the convention on the spot! She made me apologize for making a scene in front of her booth :( So she stole my art, and i was the one who apologized.
THAT. IS. WRONG.

Wow, if thievery was a game, she would be the final boss :iconfacepalmplz:
well this info is public now. I hope this journal will apears whenever someone googles her shop.

They also seemed to have stolen the design of the octopus in their logo from :iconbriankesinger: 
look at their logo here 


www.facebook.com/OctopusAccess…
and look at this drawing here  Traveling with your octopus by BrianKesinger
pretty damn similar.
There is not one drop of originality in their designs. There is not one drop of shame.

The thing that bothers me is not the stealing, not the making money off of it, anyone makes mistakes, but it's the way they handled me at the convention, the lies, her attitude of OUTRAGE that i was making a scene and she was oh so damn innocent
People have stole my art before, on deviantart, on facebook, i always discuss with the first, and most of the time they apologize and simply add a link to my gallery, that's all i ask. I wasn't going to report her and have her booted out of Nijikon anyway if she owned to her mistake and not lie to me and have that attitude! I feel like a complete idiot for apologizing to her! 

:new:They have made a public apology to me:

www.facebook.com/OctopusAccess…

Please don't use curse words, no threats, no ugly words, no other drama, i did this so the drama ends. If you do it will reflect badly on me so please don't do that.

This is the translation of the apology:

:For Nijikon we prepared a series of necklaces with 3 characters from The Hobbit (Bilbo baggins, Legolas and Thranduil) because we didn't receive approval to use them, the images created by Yuuza (link to galery) which is the reason we retreated them immediately from being sold. With this occasion i am also presenting my apologies, and thank the author for bringing this to out attention."

I am satisfied with the apology although that does not erase these unpleasant memories and the lies they told me.

I am very happy that you care about my art and what has happened, and i know you were outraged too by what has happened. That's why i want you to see this apology too and know that at least some justice was served. 
I do not however want to see some shitstorm on that apology, if you're angry about what has happened, and want to vent about it, comment on this journal.

Thank you so much for your support in this :hug: your comments made me feel better! If i didn't have you on my side, she probably wouldn't have paid any attention to my complaints whatsoever, it's because i had so many people backing me up that i managed to end this problem and have my voice heard. :new:

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:iconkriscynical:
KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I've had my work stolen countless times since I first started posting it online 15 years ago. Most for just empty praise (what the hell kind of satisfaction can you possibly get from being praised for something you didn't do?!), but some for profit via commissions, prints, and other items. The most expensive thing thus far was a woman on eBay who was selling cigar box purses with my Harry Potter work slapped on the sides for $50 bucks USD a pop. She sold a few before she was caught, too. :x

I went to take a look at your gallery, btw, and your work is really excellent. It's not surprising that someone was trying to sell it! :no:

If you've ever had a table/booth at a convention artist alley (or whatever they're called there) and you already know this, please disregard the redundancy. Otherwise:

In the future for conventions, it doesn't matter where the booth owner got the material. If they didn't create it, they're in violation of the policies of the artist alley. That's been an explicit rule at every con I've ever sold MY work at, and it's a zero tolerance policy, too.

If you EVER see your work being sold in an unauthorized manner at a con, report it to the artist alley operations booth IMMEDIATELY to have them ejected from the con. If you see someone ELSE'S work being used, even, report it. They can't claim ignorance because ALL artist alleys make you agree to their policies when you register/pay for a booth space. If they didn't read what they agreed to then that's their problem, not yours.

I mean, honestly, you're supposed to learn not to take what doesn't belong to you by the time you're five years old! It irritates me to no end when people do that anywhere, but if they do it to PROFIT from the stolen work? That's when "~Ye Olde Hunting Brick~" comes out to play. >:\
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:iconreitanna-seishin:
Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with Lets-Get-Saiko, the law IS on your side, and it's more than compensation you could get. art thieves can be fined up to $50,000 in some cases. you could take this chick to court
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:iconkriscynical:
KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
In the US it can be $100,000+ if the person/entity they stole from is large enough.

That being said, though, I wouldn't recommend taking legal action for monetary damages unless it was a considerable amount. My family's business was wrongfully sued (and I mean HORRIBLY wrong!) more than once in the last 30 years, and the legal fees are astronomical. You're not guaranteed anything even if you're clearly in the right, too. There's all sorts of dirty legal tricks lawyers can pull to drag things out and sway things in the wrong direction. :unimpressed:

(We won every time, btw, but it cost more than $100,000 in legal fees over 8 YEARS because of those dirty legal tricks!)
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:iconreitanna-seishin:
Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
good point. but MAN, if it had been me, I wouldn't have let that chick convince me I was in the wrong. the NERVE of that girl!
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:iconkriscynical:
KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Oh yeah, of course not! People involved in that kind of nonsense unfortunately love to pass off blame to anything and anyone in order to avoid admitting they did something wrong.

I'm going to give an example now that is pretty long, so please forgive the mountain of text you're (hopefully) about to read. I'm shrinking the text some because of it. ^^;

I once had a friend (who was like a sister to me) say it was MY fault that she stole MY intellectual property — a cover design concept for an e-book she wrote — because she was FORCED TO, you see. By me.

Back in 2009 I had spinal nerve system problems that made my body go shot-up-with-novacaine numb from my earlobes down to my hips, including my arms and hands down to the fingertips. It essentially handicapped me to the point of making it difficult to WALK at its worst. I couldn't care for myself, either, because when you have no sensation of touch, you can't GRIP anything (like hairbrushes, toothbrushes, opening water bottles, using silverware to eat, etc.), including writing utensils. I couldn't even write my own name let alone draw, and there was a period of a few weeks where I didn't know whether or not I'd ever be able to draw again, which is friggin' TERRIFYING as an illustrator! But I digress...

I didn't get the cover fixed by her deadline, not only because of being handicapped, but also because she never bothered to tell me when that deadline actually was.

So.

Basically, my handicapped inability to even take care of myself and my inability to read her mind therefore "gave [her] no other choice" than to sell out our 5+ year friendship by being an unethical douchebag and needlessly stealing from me instead of simply asking for the permission to use what she stole, which I would have readily given to her because of the aforementioned temporary terrifying handicap. See? All my fault. Shame on me.

It was also my fault that I didn't have an artist release form for her e-publisher even though the publisher is supposed to supply said form, NOT the artist. Every bit of glaring unprofessionalism from not only her but the publisher's OWNER was my fault, too.

She had the gall to question my education AND professionalism in all this, too, saying that she "thought Ringling would have taught [me] about the business of deadlines" but she "guessed [she] was wrong". I guess I somehow missed the day in my Business of Illustration class during senior year when they covered how to read a client's mind to know when they need something by without them actually telling you, and how to keep from having pesky little debilitating handicaps pop up.

It was also very wrong of me to give my paying work — you know, the stuff I make my living from — priority over what I was doing for her for free that should have cost her at least a couple hundred dollars but I didn't charge her for because she was my best friend and I just wanted her book to look good. (Talk about gratitude, right?)


I could have nailed her to the wall with a lawsuit and been perfectly within my rights to do so, but I didn't because I knew even if I won easily, getting any kind of monetary compensation from her would have been like getting blood out of a stone because she didn't HAVE money. It wasn't worth it, especially since it was over a cover concept for a stupid little $3 e-book. I did warn her never to touch my work again, though, or else I WOULD sue her. We haven't spoken since and truth be told, after seeing her true colors? I haven't missed her.

It feels great to be f#@&ed sideways for $3, by the way. You should try it sometime! :roll:
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:iconreitanna-seishin:
Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
that's messed up yo
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:iconlets-get-saiko:
Lets-Get-Saiko Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They profited off of you, so maybe you should try to get reimbursement. The law is on your side.
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:icondivinusartofficial:
DivinusArtOfficial Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Professional General Artist
Am vazut si eu chestia asta intr-o poza si ma minunam cum de a ajuns octopusul dnl Kesinger in Romania :)))) Da, stiu situatia, e oribil sincer.
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:iconc55m:
c55m Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And ps:  She's darned lucky it wasn't me she was dealing with ... apologize?  I'd have made a huge scene and she would be in tears trying to get out of there as fast as she could.  THIEF! 
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yea, i wish i told the organizer and get her kicked out. I will not be so soft next time :(
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:iconc55m:
c55m Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
An apology? Retreated the drawings from where... that particular page?  Didn't offer to compensate you by giving you a percentage of profits they'd already made with your drawings? 

I'm sick of people who steal art, alter it in some way and then say it's theirs... but for a company to steal art for profit... that's when it gets serious.  So sorry this happened to you.  I won't say a word to them, but to you now... use a watermark or distort your image pixels and the stealing will stop.  So greedy and dishonest of them.  You have their admission, now get an attorney and your case is already won... so make them pay you for stealing your art and expose them to the world.  You'll be helping other artists they're stealing from.  
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:iconidunahayaphotography:
IdunaHayaPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Pfff, that's so rude! She was found out this time, but who knows what else she's stolen? At least the name's out there now. Let's hope she's learned from this :)
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:iconresintobe:
ResinToBe Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
That's really sad. :( When will people realize that you can't use art for whatever purpose you want and make money off someone else's ideas and designs just because you found the pictures on the internet? You did the right thing. Don't let it get you down. 
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:iconshinseinasenshi:
Shinseinasenshi Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's horrible. But all scales will tip properly. Do not 
worry yourself over the the evil of this world.

Times are rough these days...   greed is prevalent everywhere.
Love is in money and things. But I know how to fix this.
I intend to be part of the solution, and never the problem.

Keep strong.
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:iconthe-reapers-prophet:
The-Reapers-Prophet Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014
And... there goes more of my faith in humanity.
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:iconshinseinasenshi:
Shinseinasenshi Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
People can choose to be in darkness or light.
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:iconthe-reapers-prophet:
The-Reapers-Prophet Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014
True, very true.
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:iconlucressia:
lucressia Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Professional General Artist
I already fav it =)
I hope all of this end soon.
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:iconjulibaker18:
JuliBaker18 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014
you handle this situation really well
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:iconsynthetictrojan:
SyntheticTrojan Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014
Y'know I'm not as forgiving. If I saw that I'd be lecturing her and not believing it for a second. I'd at least want some of the money. CURSE YOU! 
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:iconsurpisesforall:
SurpisesForAll Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Student Artist
Sorry that they did that to you, I didn't like the call out but at least they apologized?
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:iconlovelt:
LoveLT Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
That is such a mean thing to do! I just hope everything will work out for you :hug:
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
thank you :hug:
there's nothing to work out, i will just move on with my life :) maybe learn a lesson from all of this
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:iconlovelt:
LoveLT Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Your welcome :) Note me if you need advise or just to chat
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:iconjoediebestie:
JoeDieBestie Featured By Owner Edited Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
make screenshots, collect evidences, and sue them!
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:iconkriscynical:
KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
As I said to someone else here who said to sue:

I wouldn't recommend taking legal action for monetary damages unless it was a considerable amount. My family's business was wrongfully sued (and I mean HORRIBLY wrong!) more than once in the last 30 years, and the legal fees are astronomical. You're not guaranteed anything even if you're clearly in the right, too. There's all sorts of dirty legal tricks lawyers can pull to drag things out and sway things in the wrong direction. :unimpressed:

(We won every time, btw, but it cost more than $100,000 in legal fees over 8 YEARS because of those dirty legal tricks!)
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
well, i'm not sure it's worth it. I'd have to pay an attorney and whatnot and they already took down the stolen art, i don't have any evidence, the evidence was at Nijikon and i wasn't inspired enough to take a photo :iconfacepalmplz:
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:iconjoediebestie:
JoeDieBestie Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah thats a pity. Sometimes its better to do more prepare work before the battle ;)
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
well i wouldn't have paid attorney fees for such a small matter anyway, i mean they probably didn't sell more that $30, it's just not worth it to take that to court :\
i am just angry at myself for letting myself be tricked into thinking she;s innocent.
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:iconkriscynical:
KrisCynical Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I already said this elsewhere to others, but:

I wouldn't recommend taking legal action for monetary damages unless it was a considerable amount. My family's business was wrongfully sued (and I mean HORRIBLY wrong!) more than once in the last 30 years, and the legal fees are astronomical. You're not guaranteed anything even if you're clearly in the right, too. There's all sorts of dirty legal tricks lawyers can pull to drag things out and sway things in the wrong direction. :unimpressed:

(We won every time, btw, but it cost more than $100,000 in legal fees over 8 YEARS because of those dirty legal tricks!)
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yea, as i've said to other people who suggested it, it would not be worth my time and money to go after them especially that they took down the stolen stuff from their website, and i didn't even take a photo of their booth so i have no evidence, and they probably sold less than $30 worth of stuff so the money i would loose from investing my time in this would be much more. It's just not worth it, they are not a big company, they are a small online shop no one gives a shit about.  Not to mention the work they stole is fanart, so technically, I myself have no right on it anyway! So yea, there are many many reasons for me NOT to sue them. :)
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:iconpeppermintsoda:
PeppermintSoda Featured By Owner Edited Oct 23, 2014  Student
Why you gotta be so rude
Don't you know I'm human too


- "Rude" by MAGIC!

Those guys are so rude! :rage: :iconrageguyplz:
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
i know that song :D
yup
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:iconpeppermintsoda:
PeppermintSoda Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Student
;)
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:iconxnaaral:
XNAaraL Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
 I hope also this journal will apears whenever someone googles her shop. www.octopus-store.ro/
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
it should ):
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:iconjustazagdeviant:
justazagdeviant Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Since it was your art aren't you entitled to at least some portion of the profits made off your work if not all it?
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
i don't think i should go down that road, they might claim they paid me for my art and now are entitled to it :(
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:icondaniela0114:
Daniela0114 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Damn.
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:(
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:iconsoulreaver72:
soulreaver72 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
Stealing is not cool. Art thieves have no shame.
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
yup :( no shame at all
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:icon2cutekitty:
2cutekitty Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Student Writer
That's sad I hate thieves like my sister she steals my things but its nothing like this
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
between familly it's different :(
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:icon2cutekitty:
2cutekitty Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Student Writer
I know. and I feel sorry for you ya'know how could there be such thieves in this world and the worst part especially is being caught out for stealing someone elses art
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:iconmochichan7560:
Mochichan7560 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Hobbyist
Next time when someone steals your art, you will have the strength of a thousand deviantees.
lets go knock some sense into them
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:))))))))))
yes, i definitely learned a lesson here, i won't be so mellow next time :D
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:iconmochichan7560:
Mochichan7560 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Hobbyist
SHOW THEM THE POWER OF YUUZA! :D
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:iconngbirrielrivera:
NGbirrielrivera Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Art theft is not cool.
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:iconyuuza:
Yuuza Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
yup :(
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